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face=Arial>I think there might be some confusion as to what it actually costs to
do the FTTN upgrades/installs. We (Internet Solver) have done similar projects
but not on the same scale as Qwest obviously. From what we have seen, just the
equipment in the box on the side of the road is $10k+, then add in the labor to
set the pedestal, bring the fiber to the area, etc, it's easily $30k on up.
Cities are divided up into distribution areas which usually have 100-200 homes
in them. You need to install a box like this in each distribution area. There is
also the problem of right of way, getting permission to install the box, getting
permits, getting power, etc. After you get all of this outside work done, you
need to aggregate all of the fiber and route the traffic. I've seen some of the
equipment that has been installed to support this and it's absolutely massive
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<P>--<BR>Dave Weis<BR>515-224-9229<BR>djweis@internetsolver.com<BR><A
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> cialug-bounces@cialug.org
[mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>PAUL
COWLEY<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
cialug@cialug.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL
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<DIV></DIV>Qwest FINALLY executed on their plans to bring FTTN in my
neighborhood in Ames over the past couple of months... as well as a change
from ADSL to VDSL. However, this was after at least two years
of telling other potential customers (my next-door neighbors!) that DSL
wasn't available in the area at any cost. I can only assume this
was due to lack of available ports in the DSLAM.<BR> <BR>That said,
I've submitted an order to upgrade from 1.5Mbps to 12Mbps (the top speed
they're offering), due to install next Monday. I'm not complaining
about 12Mbps, but it's a far cry from the 40Mbps they're advertising... even
with brand-new fiber and VDSL equipment - all in a new neighborhood with
(presumably) good enough quality copper to the home to support the
higher speeds.<BR> <BR>What I don't quite understand is why Qwest seems
so unwilling to make ANY investment into their infrastructure, even in core
areas where the payoff should be relatively
fast.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Paul<BR>KB7VML<BR> <BR>> From:
bofh@visi.com<BR>> To: cialug@cialug.org<BR>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011
13:19:31 -0600<BR>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL
availability in DSM metro<BR>> <BR>> I just called Qwest, and received
the runaround again: <BR>> "With the New Year, they're looking at upgrades,
but we <BR>> don't know where or when". As I told them, I dislike
<BR>> Mediacom (left them due to the outages), but I'm about <BR>> ready
to leave Qwest--and will drop the voice line.<BR>> <BR>> Seems like
everyplace I go outside the Des Moines metro <BR>> area has no problem with
getting high-speed (7 Mb/s+) <BR>> connections--metros and rural areas
alike. Des Moines has <BR>> become an even worse technology backwater than
it was.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:53:09 -0600<BR>>
jrnosee <jrnosee@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> > I concur. I live on the
border of Waukee and Clive/Urbandale. Every time I check it says I'm only able
to get a 1.5 > connection. (Although I have gotten some reports that
it may be due to no open 7mbps+ ports free on our<BR>> >
DSLAM?!).<BR>> > <BR>> > I REALLY want to drop Mediacom. We loose
our connection or most of our bandwidth on cable at the drop of a <BR>>
> hat. I got home Monday night to .9mbps downstream. 0.9!!!!! on a 12mbps
connection! Does anyone know any <BR>> > outdoor cable monkeys for
mediacom? They were supposed to come put a new line in for us MONTHS ago and
<BR>> > never did. They just keep sending the indoor guys who scratch
their (butts) heads and say "well, it's fine <BR>> > right now."<BR>>
> <BR>> > Seriously... Any takers? $20 on that being the outcome of
yet ANOTHER mediacom appointment I've got <BR>> > tomorrow
morning.<BR>> > <BR>> > At least they dropped my price for all the
hassle I've had.<BR>> <BR>>
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