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size=2 face=Arial>It's the responsiblity of the end user or land owner. We
usually subcontract it as I don't know how to run a shovel :-) You would want to
call one-call to mark the existing underground facilities
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<P><FONT size=2>--<BR>Dave
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> cialug-bounces@cialug.org
[mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kenneth
Younger<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Central
Iowa Linux Users Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Cialug] Fiber Optics Network
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<DIV></DIV>Who is responsible for getting that PVC from the computer/demarc
out to that designated connection? Is that something Internet Solver can do?
Is is something I can do myself on my own property? Do you need to have a
specific certification/license?<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Dave Weis <SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>It
varies a bit, we've gotten pricing ranging from $0 on the Qwest portion but
requiring $10k in conduit from the designated building to the road to $30k
for the Qwest construction but the conduit was already there. Most of them
we've installed or quoted didn't have any Qwest charges though. The majority
of the cost is you getting a 4" PVC conduit from your computer/demarc room
out to the designated location in the right of way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>--<BR>Dave Weis<BR>515-224-9229<BR><A
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org"
target=_blank>cialug-bounces@cialug.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org"
target=_blank>cialug-bounces@cialug.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tim
Champion<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:58 PM
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Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Cialug] Fiber Optics Network
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<DIV></DIV>Just out of curiosity, what range of money are we talking about
to put in fiber to a given location? I suppose it all depends on distance
and "obstacles", but would that be $5,000? $10,000, $50,000? <BR><BR
clear=all>Tim Champion<BR><A href="mailto:timchampion@gmail.com"
target=_blank>timchampion@gmail.com</A><BR><BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>There are different parts of Qwest. If you look at
the paint on the ground when they do locates the local part of Qwest is
labeled as QLN for Qwest Local Network.<BR><BR>As far as fiber to your
home, if you cover the cost, we'll put it wherever you want :-)<BR><FONT
color=#888888><BR>--<BR>Dave Weis<BR>515-224-9229<BR><A
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<DIV><BR><BR><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org"
target=_blank>cialug-bounces@cialug.org</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>> [mailto:<A href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org"
target=_blank>cialug-bounces@cialug.org</A>] On Behalf Of Dave Hala
Jr<BR></DIV>
<DIV>> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:27 PM<BR>> To: Central
Iowa Linux Users Group<BR>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Fiber Optics
Network Maps...<BR>><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>> Is that really feasible? When I lived in town there was
Qwest<BR>> fiber in the ground in the alley 3 ft from the edge of
my<BR>> house. That means it was barely 4ft from my computer...
Could<BR>> I get a fiber to my house? No.<BR>> In fact, Qwest
thought my even asking was amusing.<BR>><BR>> :)
Dave<BR>><BR>> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 12:33 -0500, David Runneals
wrote:<BR>> > @jim I know Qwest runs fiber along UP rail lines...
we have<BR>> one going<BR>> > though our town, so you could
find a farm close to a UP line...<BR>> > basically when your
looking for farms, go around the perimeter<BR>> > (usually by the
road) they have warning signs posted, warning of<BR>> >
underground fiber... I think I have seen that they run them
along<BR>> > rural roads (or that could have been purely
telephone)...<BR>> We all know<BR>> > that the companies
(Qwest, Mediacom, Verizon, Windstream, INS, etc)<BR>> > all keep
the best maps for them selves... Good luck!! Links<BR>> are
below<BR>> > of maps:<BR>> ><BR>> > <A
href="http://www.iowatelecom.net/images/itc-connect-map.pdf"
target=_blank>http://www.iowatelecom.net/images/itc-connect-map.pdf</A>
- Iowa Telecom<BR>> > (windstream)<BR>> ><BR>> <A
href="http://www.fiberutilities.com/documents/FG_Press_Release_An_In"
target=_blank>http://www.fiberutilities.com/documents/FG_Press_Release_An_In</A><BR>>
terstate_Fiber_Utility_Whitepaper_021010.pdf - not in place
yet...<BR>> > <A
href="http://www.icn.state.ia.us/aboutus/images/FIBER%20%28generalized%29%20%"
target=_blank>http://www.icn.state.ia.us/aboutus/images/FIBER%20(generalized)%20%</A><BR>>
> 20LEASED_CONNECTIONS.pdf - ICN<BR>> ><BR>> <A
href="http://www.iowanetworkservices.com/resources/20/iowa_statewide_fiber_m"
target=_blank>http://www.iowanetworkservices.com/resources/20/iowa_statewide_fiber_m</A><BR>>
> ap.jpg - INS<BR>> ><BR>> > <A
href="http://www.broadband.gov/maps/availability.htm"
target=_blank>http://www.broadband.gov/maps/availability.htm</A> - check
this<BR>> too... I'm<BR>> > REALLY surprised about Iowa, since
most of the land is rural...<BR>> ><BR>> > I have asked
Windstream (Iowa telecom merger) if they have<BR>> a detailed<BR>>
> map of their connections in Iowa... I'm surprised there<BR>>
isn't a better<BR>> > one for the public...<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > David Runneals<BR>> > E: <A
href="mailto:david@runneals.com"
target=_blank>david@runneals.com</A><BR>> > W: <A
href="http://runneals.com" target=_blank>runneals.com</A><BR>> >
W: <A href="http://wipperman-runneals.com"
target=_blank>wipperman-runneals.com</A><BR>> ><BR>> >
Please consider your environmental responsibility before<BR>>
printing this<BR>> > e-mail.<BR>> >
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