<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18904"></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 
face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=132434019-21072010><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2 face=Arial>It's the responsiblity of the end user or land owner. We 
usually subcontract it as I don't know how to run a shovel :-) You would want to 
call one-call to mark the existing underground facilities 
though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=132434019-21072010><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=132434019-21072010><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2 face=Arial>dave</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=132434019-21072010></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><!-- Converted from text/plain format -->
<P><FONT size=2>--<BR>Dave 
Weis<BR>515-224-9229<BR>djweis@internetsolver.com<BR><A 
href="http://www.internetsolver.com/">http://www.internetsolver.com/</A><BR>Please 
check out our Complete Support Service<BR><A 
href="http://www.internetsolver.com/completesupport/">http://www.internetsolver.com/completesupport/</A><BR><BR></FONT></P>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left>
  <HR tabIndex=-1>
  <FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> cialug-bounces@cialug.org 
  [mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kenneth 
  Younger<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Central 
  Iowa Linux Users Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Cialug] Fiber Optics Network 
  Maps...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>Who is responsible for getting that PVC from the computer/demarc 
  out to that designated connection? Is that something Internet Solver can do? 
  Is is something I can do myself on my own property? Do you need to have a 
  specific certification/license?<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Dave Weis <SPAN 
  dir=ltr>&lt;<A 
  href="mailto:djweis@internetsolver.com">djweis@internetsolver.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> 
  wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" 
  class=gmail_quote>
    <DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 
    face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>It 
    varies a bit, we've gotten pricing ranging from $0 on the Qwest portion but 
    requiring $10k in conduit from the designated building to the road to $30k 
    for the Qwest construction but the conduit was already there. Most of them 
    we've installed or quoted didn't have any Qwest charges though. The majority 
    of the cost is you getting a 4" PVC conduit from your computer/demarc room 
    out to the designated location in the right of way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 
    face=Arial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 
    face=Arial>dave</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV class=im>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 
    face=Arial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <P><FONT size=2>--<BR>Dave Weis<BR>515-224-9229<BR><A 
    href="mailto:djweis@internetsolver.com" 
    target=_blank>djweis@internetsolver.com</A><BR><A 
    href="http://www.internetsolver.com/" 
    target=_blank>http://www.internetsolver.com/</A><BR>Please check out our 
    Complete Support Service<BR><A 
    href="http://www.internetsolver.com/completesupport/" 
    target=_blank>http://www.internetsolver.com/completesupport/</A><BR><BR></FONT></P>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us align=left>
      <HR>
      <FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org" 
      target=_blank>cialug-bounces@cialug.org</A> [mailto:<A 
      href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org" 
      target=_blank>cialug-bounces@cialug.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tim 
      Champion<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:58 PM
      <DIV>
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=h5><BR><B>To:</B> Central Iowa Linux Users 
      Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Cialug] Fiber Optics Network 
      Maps...<BR></DIV></DIV></FONT><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=h5>
      <DIV></DIV>Just out of curiosity, what range of money are we talking about 
      to put in fiber to a given location? I suppose it all depends on distance 
      and "obstacles", but would that be $5,000? $10,000, $50,000?&nbsp; <BR><BR 
      clear=all>Tim Champion<BR><A href="mailto:timchampion@gmail.com" 
      target=_blank>timchampion@gmail.com</A><BR><BR><BR>
      <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Dave Weis <SPAN 
      dir=ltr>&lt;<A href="mailto:djweis@internetsolver.com" 
      target=_blank>djweis@internetsolver.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE 
      style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" 
      class=gmail_quote><BR>There are different parts of Qwest. If you look at 
        the paint on the ground when they do locates the local part of Qwest is 
        labeled as QLN for Qwest Local Network.<BR><BR>As far as fiber to your 
        home, if you cover the cost, we'll put it wherever you want :-)<BR><FONT 
        color=#888888><BR>--<BR>Dave Weis<BR>515-224-9229<BR><A 
        href="mailto:djweis@internetsolver.com" 
        target=_blank>djweis@internetsolver.com</A><BR><A 
        href="http://www.internetsolver.com/" 
        target=_blank>http://www.internetsolver.com/</A><BR>Please check out our 
        Complete Support Service<BR><A 
        href="http://www.internetsolver.com/completesupport/" 
        target=_blank>http://www.internetsolver.com/completesupport/</A><BR></FONT>
        <DIV><BR><BR><BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: <A 
        href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org" 
        target=_blank>cialug-bounces@cialug.org</A><BR></DIV>
        <DIV>&gt; [mailto:<A href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org" 
        target=_blank>cialug-bounces@cialug.org</A>] On Behalf Of Dave Hala 
        Jr<BR></DIV>
        <DIV>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:27 PM<BR>&gt; To: Central 
        Iowa Linux Users Group<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [Cialug] Fiber Optics 
        Network Maps...<BR>&gt;<BR></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>&gt; Is that really feasible? When I lived in town there was 
        Qwest<BR>&gt; fiber in the ground in the alley 3 ft from the edge of 
        my<BR>&gt; house. That means it was barely 4ft from my computer... 
        Could<BR>&gt; I get a fiber to my house? No.<BR>&gt; In fact, Qwest 
        thought my even asking was amusing.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; :) 
        Dave<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 12:33 -0500, David Runneals 
        wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; @jim I know Qwest runs fiber along UP rail lines... 
        we have<BR>&gt; one going<BR>&gt; &gt; though our town, so you could 
        find a farm close to a UP line...<BR>&gt; &gt; basically when your 
        looking for farms, go around the perimeter<BR>&gt; &gt; (usually by the 
        road) they have warning signs posted, warning of<BR>&gt; &gt; 
        underground fiber... I think I have seen that they run them 
        along<BR>&gt; &gt; rural roads (or that could have been purely 
        telephone)...<BR>&gt; We all know<BR>&gt; &gt; that the companies 
        (Qwest, Mediacom, Verizon, Windstream, INS, etc)<BR>&gt; &gt; all keep 
        the best maps for them selves... Good luck!! Links<BR>&gt; are 
        below<BR>&gt; &gt; of maps:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; <A 
        href="http://www.iowatelecom.net/images/itc-connect-map.pdf" 
        target=_blank>http://www.iowatelecom.net/images/itc-connect-map.pdf</A> 
        - Iowa Telecom<BR>&gt; &gt; (windstream)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; <A 
        href="http://www.fiberutilities.com/documents/FG_Press_Release_An_In" 
        target=_blank>http://www.fiberutilities.com/documents/FG_Press_Release_An_In</A><BR>&gt; 
        terstate_Fiber_Utility_Whitepaper_021010.pdf - not in place 
        yet...<BR>&gt; &gt; <A 
        href="http://www.icn.state.ia.us/aboutus/images/FIBER%20%28generalized%29%20%" 
        target=_blank>http://www.icn.state.ia.us/aboutus/images/FIBER%20(generalized)%20%</A><BR>&gt; 
        &gt; 20LEASED_CONNECTIONS.pdf - ICN<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; <A 
        href="http://www.iowanetworkservices.com/resources/20/iowa_statewide_fiber_m" 
        target=_blank>http://www.iowanetworkservices.com/resources/20/iowa_statewide_fiber_m</A><BR>&gt; 
        &gt; ap.jpg - INS<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; <A 
        href="http://www.broadband.gov/maps/availability.htm" 
        target=_blank>http://www.broadband.gov/maps/availability.htm</A> - check 
        this<BR>&gt; too... I'm<BR>&gt; &gt; REALLY surprised about Iowa, since 
        most of the land is rural...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I have asked 
        Windstream (Iowa telecom merger) if they have<BR>&gt; a detailed<BR>&gt; 
        &gt; map of their connections in Iowa... I'm surprised there<BR>&gt; 
        isn't a better<BR>&gt; &gt; one for the public...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
        &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; David Runneals<BR>&gt; &gt; E: <A 
        href="mailto:david@runneals.com" 
        target=_blank>david@runneals.com</A><BR>&gt; &gt; W: <A 
        href="http://runneals.com" target=_blank>runneals.com</A><BR>&gt; &gt; 
        W: <A href="http://wipperman-runneals.com" 
        target=_blank>wipperman-runneals.com</A><BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
        Please consider your environmental responsibility before<BR>&gt; 
        printing this<BR>&gt; &gt; e-mail.<BR>&gt; &gt; 
        _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; Cialug 
        mailing list<BR>&gt; &gt; <A href="mailto:Cialug@cialug.org" 
        target=_blank>Cialug@cialug.org</A><BR>&gt; &gt; <A 
        href="http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug" 
        target=_blank>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug</A><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
        _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; Cialug mailing 
        list<BR>&gt; <A href="mailto:Cialug@cialug.org" 
        target=_blank>Cialug@cialug.org</A><BR>&gt; <A 
        href="http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug" 
        target=_blank>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug</A><BR>&gt;<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Cialug 
        mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Cialug@cialug.org" 
        target=_blank>Cialug@cialug.org</A><BR><A 
        href="http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug" 
        target=_blank>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug</A><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Cialug 
    mailing list<BR><A 
    href="mailto:Cialug@cialug.org">Cialug@cialug.org</A><BR><A 
    href="http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug" 
    target=_blank>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>