<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:Times New Roman;}</style></head><body>>If you can install to a "USB thumb drive" you can install to a the hard
drive -- they're both just random-access block devices.'<br><br>I wonder if it's possible (without jumping through too many hoops) to set up a virtual machine inside of a Linux installation, with the browser, open office, etc. already installed and configured, and then when a user logs of the machine, erase that virtual machine and replace it with a clean image from the template, so that the next user to log on gets a fresh install? You would have to chroot it so that the user couldn't do anything they're not supposed to do, but since the image is replaced every time a user logs off you don't have to worry about resetting configurations. It might be slow, though, on an old PC.<br><br>> I thought about cd idea but- cd would have to be remastered for secure
wifi network. <br>> And many of the young users would not have the
patience for cd boot time. <br><br>That's only an issue when it boots...if you leave it up all day then it's already in RAM and ready to go.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: cialug-request@cialug.org<br>To: cialug@cialug.org<br>Sent: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:49:22 -0500 (CDT)<br>Subject: Cialug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 37<br><br>Send Cialug mailing list submissions to<br> cialug@cialug.org<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> cialug-request@cialug.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> cialug-owner@cialug.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Cialug digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Kiosk suggestions? (Allen Kiddoo)<br> 2. Android Issue? (Josh More)<br> 3. Re: Android Issue? (Kenneth Younger)<br> 4. Re: Kiosk suggestions? (Zachary Kotlarek)<br> 5. Re: Kiosk suggestions? (L. V. Lammert)<br> 6. Re: Android Issue? (Ed Meacham (@work))<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:43:57 -0500 (CDT)<br>From: Allen Kiddoo <adk@52761.com><br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Kiosk suggestions?<br>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@cialug.org><br>Message-ID: <624312790.101277909033573.JavaMail.iadude@AK-iMac.local><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br><br>not supported on this old hardware.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz@bearfruit.org><br>To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" <cialug@cialug.org><br>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:28:27 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Kiosk suggestions?<br><br><br><br>On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Allen Kiddoo < adk@52761.com > wrote: <br><br><br>I thought about cd idea but- cd would have to be remastered for secure wifi network. <br>And many of the young users would not have the patience for cd boot time. <br><br><br><br><br>USB thumb drive boots almost as fast as a hard drive. Ubuntu can make a live usb thumb drive from an ISO. 1GB or larger thumb drive needed. <br>-- <br>Matthew Nuzum <br>newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter <br><br>"Never stop learning" ?Robert Nuzum (My dad) <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Cialug mailing list<br>Cialug@cialug.org<br>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:04:12 +0000<br>From: Josh More <morej@alliancetechnologies.net><br>Subject: [Cialug] Android Issue?<br>To: "cialug@cialug.org" <cialug@cialug.org><br>Message-ID:<br> <97D930E86D94FB4E855DE7E58BD65B7504FF67AE@EX01.corp.alliancetechnologies.net><br> <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>So, for those of you who have Android, do you know of a way to block this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/28/google_remote_android_application_install/<br><br>This was one of the reasons I was leaning towards Android over iPhone. Now they're both back to being kinda sucky. (Admittedly, from a "company playing a parent" perspective, Apple is a lot worse.)<br><br>-Josh More, CISSP, GIAC-GSLC, GIAC-GCIH, RHCE, NCLP<br>morej@alliancetechnologies.net<br>515-245-7701<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:12:10 -0500<br>From: Kenneth Younger <kyounger@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Android Issue?<br>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@cialug.org><br>Message-ID:<br> <aanlktilsnvx4iq_xgoh1may4kkrfo4_oiul_lhfspuor@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>I was curious about this myself. I would only imagine if you got an unlocked<br>version of some phone and installed your own ROM, then you could avoid it. I<br>just don't know though. Being that it's open source, I would doubt this made<br>it into the core code, but I suppose it's possible.<br><br>On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Josh More<br><morej@alliancetechnologies.net>wrote:<br><br>> So, for those of you who have Android, do you know of a way to block this:<br>><br>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/28/google_remote_android_application_install/<br>><br>> This was one of the reasons I was leaning towards Android over iPhone. Now<br>> they're both back to being kinda sucky. (Admittedly, from a "company<br>> playing a parent" perspective, Apple is a lot worse.)<br>><br>> -Josh More, CISSP, GIAC-GSLC, GIAC-GCIH, RHCE, NCLP<br>> morej@alliancetechnologies.net<br>> 515-245-7701<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Cialug mailing list<br>> Cialug@cialug.org<br>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: http://cialug.org/pipermail/cialug/attachments/20100630/580c1cce/attachment-0001.htm <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:31:18 -0500<br>From: Zachary Kotlarek <zach@kotlarek.com><br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Kiosk suggestions?<br>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@cialug.org><br>Message-ID: <0AB56AD8-051E-45CD-891E-4BB1249685AA@kotlarek.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br><br>On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Matthew Nuzum wrote:<br><br>> USB thumb drive boots almost as fast as a hard drive. Ubuntu can make a live usb thumb drive from an ISO. 1GB or larger thumb drive needed.<br><br><br>If you can install to a "USB thumb drive" you can install to a the hard drive -- they're both just random-access block devices.<br><br> Zach<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>Name: smime.p7s<br>Type: application/pkcs7-signature<br>Size: 2746 bytes<br>Desc: not available<br>Url : http://cialug.org/pipermail/cialug/attachments/20100630/a50d398e/attachment-0001.bin <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:45:21 -0500<br>From: "L. V. Lammert" <lvl@omnitec.net><br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Kiosk suggestions?<br>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@cialug.org><br>Message-ID: <201006301545.o5UFjMwo018890@mail.omnitec.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed<br><br>At 10:31 AM 6/30/2010, you wrote:<br><br>>On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Matthew Nuzum wrote:<br>><br>> > USB thumb drive boots almost as fast as a hard drive. Ubuntu can <br>> make a live usb thumb drive from an ISO. 1GB or larger thumb drive needed.<br>><br>>If you can install to a "USB thumb drive" you can install to a the <br>>hard drive -- they're both just random-access block devices.<br><br>Why not just reset permissions on the HD to RO for everything except <br>/var/log, .. and then tweak the /home partition so as to prevent <br>downloads? A cron job could also blow out a 'stock' user profile if <br>anything changed.<br><br> Lee <br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:51:35 -0500<br>From: "Ed Meacham \(@work\)" <ed@edmeacham.com><br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Android Issue?<br>To: "'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'" <cialug@cialug.org><br>Message-ID: <003301cb186c$1f920930$5eb61b90$@com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>To answer your question: I don't know of a way to block it.<br><br> <br><br>But, I'm sure it possible if you have a root access. Maybe even if you<br>don't. My first thought is to find out the service name (someone out there<br>has to know what it is) then write a cronjob to kill it.<br><br> <br><br>I'm not going to try to root my Droid (Milestone) until I get the X. (a<br>month or so from now) By then, someone should definitely have an answer to<br>this though. :/ <br><br> <br><br>In my opinion, Google is pretty relaxed on the app approval process. it's<br>nice for honest developers, and for getting updates. Maybe this will<br>motivate them to start/do better unit testing on apps. I wonder if they<br>could use this kill method on apps that not installed via the Market?<br>(they'd need to know the package name, but still.)<br><br> <br><br>-emeacham (@work)<br><br> <br><br>From: cialug-bounces@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org] On Behalf<br>Of Kenneth Younger<br>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:12 AM<br>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group<br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Android Issue?<br><br> <br><br>I was curious about this myself. I would only imagine if you got an unlocked<br>version of some phone and installed your own ROM, then you could avoid it. I<br>just don't know though. Being that it's open source, I would doubt this made<br>it into the core code, but I suppose it's possible.<br><br>On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Josh More <morej@alliancetechnologies.net><br>wrote:<br><br>So, for those of you who have Android, do you know of a way to block this:<br>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/28/google_remote_android_application_in<br>stall/<br><br>This was one of the reasons I was leaning towards Android over iPhone. Now<br>they're both back to being kinda sucky. (Admittedly, from a "company<br>playing a parent" perspective, Apple is a lot worse.)<br><br>-Josh More, CISSP, GIAC-GSLC, GIAC-GCIH, RHCE, NCLP<br>morej@alliancetechnologies.net<br>515-245-7701<br>_______________________________________________<br>Cialug mailing list<br>Cialug@cialug.org<br>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br><br> <br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: http://cialug.org/pipermail/cialug/attachments/20100630/a0f83fcc/attachment.htm <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Cialug mailing list<br>Cialug@cialug.org<br>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br><br><br>End of Cialug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 37<br>**************************************<br><br></morej@alliancetechnologies.net></cialug@cialug.org></ed@edmeacham.com></cialug@cialug.org></lvl@omnitec.net></cialug@cialug.org></zach@kotlarek.com></morej@alliancetechnologies.net></aanlktilsnvx4iq_xgoh1may4kkrfo4_oiul_lhfspuor@mail.gmail.com></cialug@cialug.org></kyounger@gmail.com></cialug@cialug.org></morej@alliancetechnologies.net></cialug@cialug.org></newz@bearfruit.org></cialug@cialug.org></adk@52761.com></body></html>