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<div style="">Ralph,<br>
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I think so too!<br>
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You want to run it? :)<br>
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<div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px;"><font style="font-family: Courier New;" color="#888888" size="1">-Josh More, CISSP, GIAC-GSLC, GIAC-GCIH, RHCE, NCLP<br>
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<div style="direction: ltr;" id="divRpF532364"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> cialug-bounces@cialug.org [cialug-bounces@cialug.org] on behalf of Ralph Kessel [ralphkessel75@yahoo.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 11, 2010 16:05<br>
<b>To:</b> Central Iowa Linux Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cialug] HacKidCon<br>
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<div>Once I've installed this new version, I did have some problems with not recognizing some apps and booting. However, I'm working well with this new release.
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BTW a kid focused SFD would be excellent.<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Josh More <MoreJ@alliancetechnologies.net><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@cialug.org><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, May 2, 2010 11:44:13 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Cialug] HacKidCon<br>
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I know you're all busy playing with Ubuntu 10.04 this weekend, but I wanted to drop a note and see if anyone felt strongly about this idea.<br>
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I don't have time to run with this, but I'd be willing to support someone who did.<br>
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Does anyone here think that this is worth pursuing? Should we plan to do something kid-focused for SFD?<br>
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-Josh More, CISSP, GIAC-GSLC, GIAC-GCIH, RHCE, NCLP<br>
<a href="mailto:morej@alliancetechnologies.net" target="_blank">morej@alliancetechnologies.net</a><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org" target="_blank">cialug-bounces@cialug.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org" target="_blank">cialug-bounces@cialug.org</a>] on behalf of Matthew Nuzum [<a href="mailto:newz@bearfruit.org" target="_blank">newz@bearfruit.org</a>]<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 09:02<br>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group<br>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] HacKidCon<br>
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On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Josh More<br>
<<a href="mailto:MoreJ@alliancetechnologies.net" target="_blank">MoreJ@alliancetechnologies.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<span>> So there is a movement in the security community to do something like this:
<a href="http://www.hackid.org/" target="_blank">http://www.hackid.org/</a></span><br>
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> We've talked about trying to get a kid-friendly Linux day going sometime... well, these guys are building a model, albeit in the security space.<br>
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> Is there general interest in the group to do something like this? Possibly for SFD?<br>
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> Personally, I think it's a neat idea, but some of you who actually have kids might want to weigh in here. ;)<br>
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I have kids and I have tried this kind of mentoring. To keep their<br>
interest it pretty much has to involve games in some ways. The good<br>
news is, there are tons of games for Linux.<br>
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Here are some ideas:<br>
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1. computer game timeline demonstrating games representative of various eras<br>
2. "finish the game" where you show them an incomplete game and they<br>
try to fix it<br>
3. "hack the game" find a game with crude graphics and sounds and<br>
replace them with home-made ones.<br>
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(not a game)<br>
4. "Interact with the real world" use a computer to move a robotic<br>
arm, play midi music via a keyboard, turn off lights, send a text<br>
message/instant message, etc.<br>
5. "Programming" with turtle/logo or basic.<br>
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There are very clear developmental stages. I think if you get<br>
elementary age kids you'll have to cater the event towards<br>
entertaining them or guiding them so events 1, 4 and 5 would probably<br>
work. Around middle school you can give them some basic instructions,<br>
even printed, and some of them will do some inventive and pretty cool<br>
stuff.<br>
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Keep in mind that average kids are not reading very confidently until<br>
around 3rd grade (age 9). A 2nd grade is not going to be at all<br>
interested in a text adventure. :-)<br>
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--<br>
Matthew Nuzum<br>
newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, <a href="http://identi.ca" target="_blank">
identi.ca</a> and twitter<br>
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"Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they<br>
sought." –Matsuo Bashô<br>
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