<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Once I've installed this new version, I did have some problems with not recognizing some apps and booting. However, I'm working well with this new release. <br><br>BTW a kid focused SFD would be excellent.<br><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Josh More <MoreJ@alliancetechnologies.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@cialug.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, May 2, 2010 11:44:13 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Cialug]
HacKidCon<br></font><br>
I know you're all busy playing with Ubuntu 10.04 this weekend, but I wanted to drop a note and see if anyone felt strongly about this idea.<br><br>I don't have time to run with this, but I'd be willing to support someone who did.<br><br>Does anyone here think that this is worth pursuing? Should we plan to do something kid-focused for SFD?<br><br>-Josh More, CISSP, GIAC-GSLC, GIAC-GCIH, RHCE, NCLP<br><a sitetruth_checked="t" ymailto="mailto:morej@alliancetechnologies.net" href="mailto:morej@alliancetechnologies.net">morej@alliancetechnologies.net</a><br>515-245-7701<br><br>________________________________________<br>From: <a sitetruth_checked="t" ymailto="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org" href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org">cialug-bounces@cialug.org</a> [<a sitetruth_checked="t" ymailto="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org" href="mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org">cialug-bounces@cialug.org</a>] on behalf of Matthew Nuzum [<a sitetruth_checked="t"
ymailto="mailto:newz@bearfruit.org" href="mailto:newz@bearfruit.org">newz@bearfruit.org</a>]<br>Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 09:02<br>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group<br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] HacKidCon<br><br>On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Josh More<br><<a sitetruth_checked="t" ymailto="mailto:MoreJ@alliancetechnologies.net" href="mailto:MoreJ@alliancetechnologies.net">MoreJ@alliancetechnologies.net</a>> wrote:<br><span>> So there is a movement in the security community to do something like this: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.hackid.org/">http://www.hackid.org/</a></span><br>><br>> We've talked about trying to get a kid-friendly Linux day going sometime... well, these guys are building a model, albeit in the security space.<br>><br>> Is there general interest in the group to do something like this? Possibly for SFD?<br>><br>> Personally, I think it's a neat idea, but some of you who actually have kids might
want to weigh in here. ;)<br>><br><br>I have kids and I have tried this kind of mentoring. To keep their<br>interest it pretty much has to involve games in some ways. The good<br>news is, there are tons of games for Linux.<br><br>Here are some ideas:<br><br> 1. computer game timeline demonstrating games representative of various eras<br> 2. "finish the game" where you show them an incomplete game and they<br>try to fix it<br> 3. "hack the game" find a game with crude graphics and sounds and<br>replace them with home-made ones.<br><br>(not a game)<br> 4. "Interact with the real world" use a computer to move a robotic<br>arm, play midi music via a keyboard, turn off lights, send a text<br>message/instant message, etc.<br> 5. "Programming" with turtle/logo or basic.<br><br>There are very clear developmental stages. I think if you get<br>elementary age kids you'll have to cater the event towards<br>entertaining them or guiding them so events 1, 4
and 5 would probably<br>work. Around middle school you can give them some basic instructions,<br>even printed, and some of them will do some inventive and pretty cool<br>stuff.<br><br>Keep in mind that average kids are not reading very confidently until<br>around 3rd grade (age 9). A 2nd grade is not going to be at all<br>interested in a text adventure. :-)<br><br>--<br>Matthew Nuzum<br>newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, <a sitetruth_checked="t" target="_blank" href="http://identi.ca">identi.ca</a> and twitter<br><br>"Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they<br>sought." –Matsuo Bashō<br>_______________________________________________<br>Cialug mailing list<br><a sitetruth_checked="t" ymailto="mailto:Cialug@cialug.org" href="mailto:Cialug@cialug.org">Cialug@cialug.org</a><br><span><a target="_blank"
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