You are correct. Some days Java just makes me mad. Really it's frameworks that can be a pain...or make it better. In the web world it's trying to play nice with everything else on the site that can be frustrating. While that's not really JAVA's fault, RAD is a PITA with it's build-deploy-restart that I have to go through every time I make a change and it takes forever. Perish the thought I know, but I'd rather work in Visual Studio...although last time I worked in there on the web debugging was still a PITA too....<br>
<br>It's an imperfect world.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Cesar Mendoza <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mendoza@kitiara.org">mendoza@kitiara.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Is not that Java sucks. I think it's that Java is showing its age. the<br>
JVM is still a fine piece of machinery. We only need to look at Scala<br>
(<a href="http://www.scala-lang.org/" target="_blank">http://www.scala-lang.org/</a>) to see the cool things that can be done<br>
on the JVM. Java is in need of a face lift.<br>
<br>
Bye<br>
Cesar Mendoza<br>
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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:54 PM, <<a href="mailto:jrnosee@gmail.com">jrnosee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I learned starting on JAVA in college. That was fine.<br>
><br>
> I code in JAVA in RAD @ work for a particular web framework.<br>
><br>
> JAVA SUCKS!<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Paul Gray <<a href="mailto:gray@cs.uni.edu">gray@cs.uni.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Matthew Nuzum wrote:<br>
>> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Paul Gray <<a href="mailto:gray@cs.uni.edu">gray@cs.uni.edu</a><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:gray@cs.uni.edu">gray@cs.uni.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Jeff Chapin wrote:<br>
>> > > 3) Tomcat.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Analogy: Tomcat is like having a Toyota with a faulty accelerator<br>
>> > pedal.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Having trouble following the analogy. Do you mean:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Getting it to run fast isn't the problem, but when you want it to stop<br>
>> > you may be in for some pain?<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> Things work wonderfully until they don't.<br>
>><br>
>> -PG<br>
>><br>
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