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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That&#8217;s one thing I&#8217;ve noticed when messing with
other people&#8217;s themes.&nbsp; More often than not, the code is really
ugly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There is also a firebug module for drupal 6.x in the modules
section.&nbsp; I may download that and try it out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cialug-bounces@cialug.org
[mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Nuzum<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Central Iowa Linux Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cialug] OT: CSS Help<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'>Here are some tops I suggest for doing great things
w/ drupal themes:<br>
1.&nbsp; Start w/ a base theme.&nbsp; On my main site I use ninesixty.&nbsp; It
is a very bland theme that only sets the base styles.&nbsp; Zen is another
popular choice. <br>
2.&nbsp; Build your design in a graphical app (I use inkscape but Gimp or
PhotoShop are also common),&nbsp; then move to html then make it a theme.&nbsp;
This gives you far cleaner code and you just add the features you like.&nbsp;
If you use a base theme you may want to take a screenshot of it and use it as
the background / onionskin for your design. <br>
3.&nbsp; Professional drupal development by Jon vandyk is a great book. Also
check out the developer extension for drupal which has a theme developer
mode.&nbsp; You turn it on and it gives your site a firebug like overlay that helps
you figure out how to set up your PHP/theme files to get some really awesome
customizations. I have a 35% off coupon if you like,&nbsp; but the price on
Amazon is already discounted so just get it there. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'>Matthew Nuzum<br>
newz2000 on Twitter freenode <a href="http://identi.ca">identi.ca</a> and Skype<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Nov 3, 2009 7:45 PM, &lt;<a
href="mailto:lister@kulish.com">lister@kulish.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
First, thanks all for the firebug tip. &nbsp;That thing works GREAT!<br>
<br>
A special thanks to Kenneth for the direct tips.<br>
<br>
At this point it's mostly fixed up. &nbsp;At least everything is usable.<br>
Only issue is still with the story/blog post preview. &nbsp;Getting some white<br>
fields still. &nbsp;It's ugly but functional. &nbsp;The main body of the
preview<br>
has the correct background color now.<br>
<br>
I've been keeping notes on what I changed and why in case there are<br>
unintended consequences.<br>
<br>
Main site: <a href="http://tech.kulish.com/" target="_blank">http://tech.kulish.com/</a><br>
Problem list: <a href="http://tech.kulish.com/content/d4rk-theme-issues"
target="_blank">http://tech.kulish.com/content/d4rk-theme-issues</a><br>
<br>
Thanks again for all the suggestions!<br>
<br>
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:55:12 -0600, Kenneth Younger &lt;<a
href="mailto:kyounger@gmail.com">kyounger@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#500050'>&gt; Firebug is a
terrific suggestion - here is how I personally would fix it if &gt; I were you.
&gt; &gt; cha...</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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