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<DIV></DIV>I see they have 10 on their website this morning, but when I click on the package descriptions for SLED 10, I get the list for Novell Linux Desktop 9. The only question I have is what packages are available for SLED 10 and whether I can host websites on it like I'm doing with SLP 9.3.<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message from "Josh More" <morej@alliancetechnologies.net>: -------------- <BR><BR><BR>> First of all, let me clear up a misunderstanding. *all* versions of <BR>> SUSE are the <BR>> "open source" version. They're just not all free. They all contain <BR>> some <BR>> closed source software. Here are the differences: <BR>> <BR>> 1) OpenSUSE <BR>> <BR>> This is a project like Fedora or Ubuntu. It is available, for free, to <BR>> anyone <BR>> who wishes to download it. If you wish to pay for it, you can also <BR>> get <BR>> Novell support. It tends to have a six month lifetime, after which it <BR>> is replaced <BR>> by a new minor number. Emphasis is on new and experimentalism. As <BR>> such, <BR>> this is best aimed at power users, who can deal with the rough edges to <BR>> get <BR>> the best tools. When the minor
number hits 1, it becomes: <BR>> <BR>> 2) SUSE Core <BR>> <BR>> This is the base for the other SUSE/Novell Linux versions. It is <BR>> considered <BR>> stable, and is supported for 7 years from release. It can be <BR>> downloaded <BR>> as part of the products below, for free, as an evaluation. Support <BR>> costs money. <BR>> <BR>> 3) SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) <BR>> <BR>> This is a distribution intended to be used as a server. Emphasis is on <BR>> security <BR>> and stability. Versions 9 and 10 are available, based on Core 9, and <BR>> Core 10 <BR>> respectively. Consider it similar to RHEL in purpose, though somewhat <BR>> different in support and 3rd party apps (like App Armor and full Xen <BR>> support) <BR>> <BR>> 4) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED except in the Netherlands) <BR>> <BR>> This is a distribution intended to be used as a desktop (duh). <BR>> Emphasis <BR>> here is on usability.
This is the Linux intended to be used by "normal <BR>> people". <BR>> It has all the glitz and glamor with minimal rough edges. It does <BR>> *not* have <BR>> the latest and greatest foo.whatever. Stability still matters. <BR>> Versions 9 and <BR>> 10 are available. 9 is intended to be used by call center people, and <BR>> data entry folks. 10 is intended to be used by general office <BR>> workers. <BR>> Neither is intended to be used by power users. <BR>> <BR>> 5) Open Enterprise Server (OES) <BR>> <BR>> This is basically SLES with Novell services. It natively supports NSS, <BR>> iFolder, iPrint, <BR>> GroupWise, and the standard Novell/Netware fare. It is intended to <BR>> replace <BR>> Netware and MS Small Business Server. There a nice new bundle that <BR>> includes <BR>> OES, Groupwise, OpenOffice and (optionally) Linux Desktop. This tends <BR>> to be <BR>> much cheaper per user than MS Small Business Server, and i
t's all open <BR>> source. <BR>> (go ahead, get excited now). Currently, it is only available in <BR>> version 9, but version <BR>> 10 is expected once SLES 10 stabilizes. <BR>> <BR>> 6) Novell Linux Point of Service (LPOS) <BR>> <BR>> This is a version of Linux that runs well on cash registers and like <BR>> machines. <BR>> It has native hardware support and includes the fancy Java tools that <BR>> this <BR>> hardware requires. I have very little experience with this other than <BR>> a basic <BR>> install. I think that only version 9 is currently available. <BR>> <BR>> 7) Netware 6.5 <BR>> <BR>> What am I doing? Netware isn't Linux! Well, actually, Novell <BR>> announced <BR>> that they will support Netware for 13 years (from last March) when it <BR>> is <BR>> running inside Xen on SLES 10 (and theoretically, all other versions of <BR>> SLES). <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> In general: <BR>> <BR>> If you are a
hobbiest or hacker, use OpenSUSE <BR>> If you are in the business world and need a server, use SLES <BR>> If you are in the business world and need a desktop, use SLED <BR>> If you are in the business world and need a one-box-fits-all, use OES <BR>> <BR>> If you have more questions, feel free to ask me at the LUG meeting on <BR>> Wed. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -- <BR>> -Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP <BR>> morej@alliancetechnologies.net <BR>> 515-245-7701 <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >>> "Carl Olsen" <CARL-OLSEN@MCHSI.COM>07/16/06 8:56 PM >>> <BR>> I'd also like to start using Java and JSP, so I'm interested in Tomcat <BR>> as <BR>> well, but I think this release is going to have Geronimo. What can you <BR>> tell <BR>> me about Java/JSP support on this new release? <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message----- <BR>> From: cialug- bounces@cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces@cialug.org] On <BR>>
Behalf <BR>> Of Carl Olsen <BR>> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:54 PM <BR>> To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group' <BR>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday <BR>> <BR>> I was just about to install SUSE 10.1 (the open source version), but <BR>> when I <BR>> read your email I decided to wait until tomorrow. What is the <BR>> difference <BR>> between the open source version and the SUSE Linux Desktop 10 version <BR>> that <BR>> is being released tomorrow? I see the price for Novell Linux <BR>> Enterprise <BR>> Desktop 9 is around $35 on their web site. I believe you can buy the <BR>> open <BR>> source version, but the price is actually higher than $35. I don't <BR>> quite <BR>> understand the difference. I'm interested in Apache 2, PHP 5, and <BR>> MySQL 5, <BR>> and I'm also using PostgreSQL 8 and Mono 1.1. <BR>> <BR>> Carl Olsen <BR>> Web Developer <BR>> Drake University <BR>> <BR>> ---
-- Original Message----- <BR>> From: cialug- bounces@cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces@cialug.org] On <BR>> Behalf <BR>> Of Josh More <BR>> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:52 PM <BR>> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <BR>> Subject: [Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday <BR>> <BR>> OK, we have 10- 20 minutes allocated for SFD (in case it runs long). <BR>> <BR>> This means that we can handle 6- 8 lightning talks. <BR>> ( http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=Lightning+Talks ) <BR>> <BR>> I have signed myself up to give a talk on SUSE Linux Desktop 10, which <BR>> is expected to be released this Monday. <BR>> If it doesn't pan out, I'll find something else. <BR>> <BR>> If there is a talk you would like to give, sign up at <BR>> http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=Meeting+Agenda <BR>> or email me, and I will sign you up myself. <BR>> <BR>> Looking forward to seeing everyone on Wed. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
; -- <BR>> - Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP <BR>> morej@alliancetechnologies.net <BR>> 515- 245- 7701 <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >>> "Kevin C. Smith" <KEVIN@LINUXSMITH.COM>07/16/06 1:46 PM >>> <BR>> On Sun, 2006- 07- 16 at 13:33 - 0500, Josh More wrote: <BR>> > According the wiki, our meeting this Wednesday will be focused on <BR>> > Software Freedom Day. <BR>> > <BR>> > My questions: <BR>> > <BR>> > 1) Will SFD take up the entire meeting? <BR>> <BR>> No. 10 minutes <BR>> <BR>> > 2) If not, does anyone here have a topic that they would like to <BR>> > present? <BR>> > 3) Failing that, does anyone here have a topic that they would like <BR>> to <BR>> > see presented? <BR>> <BR>> -- <BR>> IT is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect <BR>> and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a <BR>> talent for the purpose; and among
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