[Cialug] Mailling List Admin

Barry Von Ahsen barry at vonahsen.com
Wed Apr 21 10:35:26 CDT 2010


but, but...if you're not reading his email, how did you know to respond?!?!!

this is the counter argument to those that don't trust google, or who 
swear by gpg/pki - if you don't trust google, do you refuse to email 
anyone @gmail.com?  do you check that every domain is not using google 
for domains?  it's kind of a silly argument.  yes, I realize that then 
they're not reading all of your email, just certain threads

(the pki argument is they don't have to break your key or get your 
email, they just have to get the other person's key/email)


-barry



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> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Tim Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:08 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Mailling List Admin
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> You bring up a good point, however that doesn't fix the perception that I've read about.  I agree with you, but there are people that think that since Google is scanning e-mail, that itself is an invasion of privacy because they are "looking" at your e-mail.  For some people, it boils down to do you trust Google when you KNOW they're scanning e-mail, or do you trust your ISP when you *think* they aren't?  Of course, it depends on the ISP.  I'm sure my ISP isn't reading my e-mail, right Dave? :)
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> Judging by the "Going Google" topic, I'd say there are people who don't trust Google, even in our educated group, so they will stay as far away from GMail as they would from Hotmail.
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> Note, I do use GMail; 90% of my e-mail goes through GMail, or Google for my domain.  But I do recognize that there are those who would rather die than trust "those bastards at Google" just because Google scans e-mails.  Again, that's their perception, even though as you point out, there's probably layers of security keeping someone from personally reading your e-mail.  At least, e-mail stored on their servers.  As the e-mail flows across the internet, that is another issue.
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> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Todd Walton <tdwalton at gmail.com<mailto:tdwalton at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tim Wilson <tim_linux at wilson-home.com<mailto:tim_linux at wilson-home.com>> wrote:
>> There is the perception that there is less of a "big brother" factor with an
>> ISP.
> 
> Wow.  I would so totally perceive just the opposite, myself.  I trust
> Google or Yahoo! or even Microsoft (though not far) to have layers of
> big company security and protocol in place to prevent any sort of
> intrusion or invasion of privacy.  I do not trust my local ISP's
> admin, who by the way is tasked with doing a lot more and therefore
> has a lot more power, to never take a peek.
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> But anyway, the last time I looked at my ISPs email option, they were
> just rebranding Yahoo!, so it was a moot point.
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